【键盘侠】雄鹿将为字母哥供超级顶薪|明夏续约or离队?

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【键盘侠】雄鹿将为字母哥供超级顶薪|明夏续约or离队?

Bucks GM has said the Bucks organisation will be offering Giannis Antetokounmpo a super max. 5 years, $240 million.

雄鹿总经理乔恩-霍斯特日前表示,球队明年将会为字母哥提供一份5年2.47亿美元的超级顶薪续约合同。

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[–]datway_ 2128 指標 12小時前

If he denies the extension they might as well trade him because he's gone

如果他拒绝续约,那雄鹿还不如把他交易了,因为他肯定会走的。

[–]Bucks ShamirToGoldenDeer 69 指標 12小時前

One year of Giannis is likely worth more than anything they could get back for him in a trade. I’d far prefer an extra season of Giannis over the haul Pels got for AD. Don’t think Giannis is the type to quit on his team even if he doesn’t sign the supermax.

雄鹿球迷:一年期合约下的字母哥的价值很可能大于雄鹿通过交易到所得到的任何回报。比起鹈鹕通过交易戴维斯换回的大礼包,我到更愿意多留字母哥一年。即便字母哥到时候不签那份超级顶薪,我也不觉得他是那种会离队的球员。

[–]Celtics fatcocksinmybum 56 指標 12小時前

He might not quit but it’s such a a big gamble, it’s either win next season or be mediocre for 5+ years as you wait out Middleton’s new contract.

凯尔特人球迷:他也许是不会走,不过这个赌注太大了,要么雄鹿下赛季取得成功,要么就再平庸五个赛季,因为你们得等到米德尔顿的新合约到期。

[–]Bucks ShamirToGoldenDeer 50 指標 11小時前

Team would be mediocre even with an amazing trade haul. I’d rather have one season as an elite team than four as a mid tier playoff team.

Team can rebuild patiently.

雄鹿球迷:哪怕我们交易字母哥得到了极为丰厚的大礼包,球队也会沦为平庸。与其成为一支排名中游的季后赛球队,倒不如有一个赛季的顶级球队体验。到时候可以再耐心重建啊。

[–][TOR] Ed Davis nametakenalready 668 指標 12小時前

Gotta wonder what type of package the Bucks would get for him

猛龙球迷:倒是挺好奇,雄鹿要是交易字母哥的话,能得到怎样的礼包。

[–]LightSkinDarylMorey 12 指標 12小時前

Only Wolves, Hawks, OKC, Suns and maybe Warriors have the asset

只有森林狼、老鹰、雷霆、太阳,或许再加上勇士,具备相应的交易资产了。

[–]datway_ 12 指標 12小時前

I think it also depends on what team he demands to be traded to, if it's the dubs the bucks can get a young all star in D'Lo and a bunch of picks.

我觉得这还得取决于字母哥想去的地方。如果是勇士的话,那勇士可以得到拉塞尔这样年轻的全明星和一帮选秀签。

[–]vincemcmahonsburner 8 指標 11小時前

Anything not for LeBron, Kawhi, AD, KD, Steph, or Harden, Bucks don’t need to do.

要是换不到詹姆斯、小卡、戴维斯、杜兰特、库里或哈登这些人,雄鹿压根没必要交易。

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 28 指標 10小時前

Not even LeBron or KD, Bron is getting older and KD with a terrible injury. I think the only players worth it there would be Kawhi and AD, maybe Harden and Steph is never gonna get traded

湖人球迷:哪怕是詹姆斯或杜兰特也不行啊,老詹年纪大了,阿杜刚重伤过。我觉得只有小卡和戴维斯值得让雄鹿出字母哥,或许还有哈登,而勇士是绝不会交易库里的。

[–]twistedlogicx 44 指標 12小時前

Whatever they can get for him now will probably be the same amount that they can get for him a year before he's a free agent. Teams will pay out the ass for him regardless of how much control he has. Really no need for the Bucks to trade him before they have to.

雄鹿现在交易字母哥所能得到的汇报或许和一年后交易他所能得到的回报一样多。不管字母哥的控制力有多少,其他球队砸锅卖铁也要得到他。雄鹿真的没那个必要交易他,除非不得已。

[–][SAS] Derrick White KuyaJohnny 13 指標 11小時前

there is always the risk of him getting hurt or just getting worse

马刺球迷:你总不能排除他受伤或者是下滑的风险吧。

[–][DET] Dennis Rodman joesteve128 25 指標 11小時前

There's also the risk you don't trade for him and he becomes GOAT caliber because honestly if he gets a 3pt shot he's basically there

活塞球迷:那你怎么不说,如果不交易他,他有成为历史最佳级别那种球员的可能呢,因为老实讲啊,要是他练出了3分,那他基本就到那个级别了。

[–]Celtics DerelictDonkeyEngine 44 指標 11小時前

Good question, Giannis has to be the single most valuable asset in the league right?

凯尔特人球迷:这个问题其实很好,字母哥肯定是联盟里目前最具交易价值的单个资产了吧?

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 72 指標 10小時前

No doubt, 24 years old, already won an MVP, led his team to the best record in the league and a conference finals spot, hasn’t even reached his prime yet either

If a trade were to happen, it would be a huge haul for the Bucks

湖人球迷:没毛病,才24岁,已经拿了MVP,带领球队拿到了联盟最佳战绩,还打进了东决,而且他甚至还没进入巅峰状态。

如果真要交易他的话,那雄鹿能换回一大堆。

[–]Mavericks FOURTY_ONE 43 指標 10小時前

That was D Rose 10 years ago.

独行侠球迷:这不就是10年前的罗斯嘛。

[–]Celtics DerelictDonkeyEngine 12 指標 10小時前

He's never had a real injury either as far as I can remember.

凯尔特人球迷:据我所知,字母哥从没受过大伤啊。

[–]Warriors shualton 1888 指標 12小時前

TT, Shump, and nets pick

勇士球迷:可以换到TT、香波特和篮网选秀签。

[–][CLE] LeBron James 5outof7_yes 11 指標 10小時前

That's a bit much tbh

骑士球迷:那还有点多了哦。

[–][PHX] Deandre Ayton InterspaceAlien 110 指標 11小時前

The AD package is a pretty good idea of where it would start

太阳球迷:其实可以参照戴维斯的交易。

[–]Bucks ShamirToGoldenDeer 137 指標 11小時前

I wouldn’t accept that if I’m the Bucks. I would let Giannis play out his contract over that. One season of Giannis does more for championship odds than four firsts or and some solid starters.

雄鹿球迷:如果我是雄鹿管理层,我肯定不答应。我倒宁愿字母哥打完合同期。要说争冠的话,一年期的字母哥肯定比四个首轮签和几个首发实力的球员更有保障些。

[–][MIL] Ish Smith wisconsinpackers 117 指標 11小時前

It’s such a tough place to be in tho. We might roll w him for a year and bomb out in the playoffs vs having one of the bigger hauls in NBA history. If Giannis says he for sure isn’t coming back I’d probably trade him to whoever offers us the most

雄鹿球迷:不过夺冠实在是太难了啊。或许咱们会多留他一阿年,然后在季后赛一败涂地,那样的话就连NBA史上排的上号的大礼包都拿不到了。要是字母哥明确说他以后不会续约的话,那谁出价最高就把他给谁吧。

[–]Bucks ShamirToGoldenDeer 46 指標 11小時前

I mean, the team has bombed out in the playoffs all but once. Actually winning it all is really hard, Bucks could go decades without ever getting as good as they were last season again.

雄鹿球迷:要我说呢,除了上赛季,咱们在季后赛本来就是不咋样。说实话,冲出东部真挺难的,也许咱们今后几十年都打不出上赛季那种成绩了。

[–]teerude 13 指標 9小時前

Yeah but lebron isn't in the east anymore, I'd there is anytime it would be now.

话是这么说,可是詹姆斯已经不在东部了啊,现在就是你们崛起的时机。

[–]Lakers Pardonme23 38 指標 10小時前

The bucks GM already showed he's scared by giving Bledsoe and Middleton too much money.

湖人球迷:雄鹿总经理这意思已经表明了,他给布莱德索和米德尔顿的价钱太多了,他都怂了。

[–][MIL] Tony Snell Gups333 19 指標 9小時前

Midds is definitely an overpay, but the bledsoe contract is solid. He just has a playoff hurdle to get over, just like the team as a whole does

雄鹿球迷:米德尔顿肯定是给多了,不过布莱德索的合同还是划算的。只是他还需要跨越季后赛的心理障碍,就像球队一样。

[–]Bucks th3RYLO 17 指標 9小時前

Tbf, there was no one else on the market that was anywhere near as good as Middleton that the Bucks could've realistically signed

雄鹿球迷:讲真,就之前市面上可供选择的人选来说,雄鹿还真签不到实力接近米德尔顿的。

[–]mannyonate 22 指標 9小時前

Giannis also has talked about how he wants to keep playing with those guys as well so ya gotta figure that helps chances of resigning vs hurting

字母哥之前也说过,他很想继续和这帮人一起打球,所以你得搞明白,留住米德尔顿这些人是有助于留住字母哥的。

[–]Lakers Pardonme23 44 指標 9小時前

I remember LMA quotes about how he wanted to be a Blazer forever too.

湖人球迷:我记得阿尔德里奇以前也说过他很想一直留在开拓者吧。

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[–]Pistons Knutt_Bustley 1448 指標 12小時前*

$50 mil a year, damn. That's higher than the entire salary cap was in 2006

活塞球迷:5000万美金一年啊,擦。这比2006年的工资帽还高啊。

[–]abrahamban 60 指標 10小時前

Just think about this. Each regular season game he plays, he will get about $600k each game. Just think about that. Fuck

你就这么想,他每打一场常规赛,就能拿到60万美金。擦,你想想。

[–]Nugur 106 指標 9小時前

If you think he’s rich, imagine the person paying him.

要是你觉得他很富的话,那就再想想那个给他开工资的人。

[–]neurotido 578 指標 10小時前

Fun fact: MJ was paid more than the combined salary of ~half the teams in some of his years

趣味贴士:乔丹有几年拿的工资,比全队加起来的一半还多。

[–]Bucks DeltronCero 334 指標 10小時前

Which, to put into context, was really only the result of years and years of being underpaid. The vast majority of his career MJ was making less than $5 million a year, and less than a surprising number of teammates.

雄鹿球迷:这得结合当时的背景来说,因为他有好些年都是拿得太少了。乔丹职业生涯大部分时间拿得年薪还不到500万,这比他的很多队友还少。

[–]asspow 275 指標 9小時前

He signed an 8 year 25 million dollar deal in 1988. 3.825 million per year. He kinda played himself there.

1988年他签了份8年2500万的合约。每年也就382万。他这向是自己给自己打球。

[–]views22 92 指標 8小時前

nothing compared to how pippen played himself. signed a 6 year extension during the '88 season worth a whopping 5 million.

his team quickly became an international phenomenon and NBA revenues and salaries quicky skyrocketed

要说这,那没谁比得上皮蓬。他87/88赛季签了一份6年期的合同,总共才500万美金呢。

接着他的球队很快就成了豪强,NBA的收入和球员薪金更是迅速飞涨……

[–]Pistons AsteroidMiner 33 指標 5小時前

Do you remember how cheap house prices were back then?

活塞球迷:那你咋不说当时的房价多便宜哦

[–]Rockets JamesHardenFuckMe 453 指標 12小時前

I thought they were gonna let him walk in FA

火箭球迷:我还以为雄鹿会让字母哥到时候以自由身走人呢

[–]Warriors Deusselkerr 258 指標 10小時前

Vet min on the warriors? Steph/Dlo/Klay/Giannis/Dray could be an okay team...

勇士球迷:老将底薪加盟我勇?库里、拉塞尔、克莱、字母哥、追梦,这阵容还行吧……

[–]Celtics zkool20 102 指標 9小時前

I mean they may be a fringe playoff team right?!?

凯尔特人球迷:或许是个季后赛边缘球队?!

[–][GSW] Kevon Looney zoomshoes 56 指標 9小時前

7th or 8th seed in a loaded West, yeah.

勇士球迷:差不多吧,应该能在强手如林的西部混个七八名。

[–]Warriors Deusselkerr 23 指標 9小時前

Really, I think this team with a college bench wins the chip lol

勇士球迷:说真的,要真有这支球队,那我觉得配上大学的板凳席都能夺冠,哈哈哈

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[–]Nets ThatDudeThatWasRude 26 指標 11小時前

This is my shocked face

篮网球迷:震惊脸。

[–]Chicago WhiteCocks 853 指標 12小時前

If he doesn’t sign this, expect the small market teams to cause a lockout.

公牛球迷:要是字母哥不续约的话,那就等着那些小球会弄一出停摆事件吧。

[–]Rockets coolusername56 25 指標 11小時前

Small market teams should pursue getting rid of max contracts. The max contract is the dumbest thing in the NBA and is the reason that a lot of superteams are able to exist in the NBA today. Why would a star player want to go to a place like Milwaukee when they can go to LA and play for the same amount of money?

火箭球迷:小球会球队应该尽量避免顶薪合同。NBA里最蠢的就是顶薪,所以才会造成现如今很多超级球队的存在。要是一个球星可以在洛杉矶拿到同样的价钱,那他干嘛还要去密尔沃基这种地方?

[–]Raptors The_Natural_Log 451 指標 12小時前

I don't get it. You can't force someone to stay in any city. After a certain amount of money, its not worth it. Stars at his level are already gonna be wealthy and set up for generations. After a certain point, your happiness is not something you can buy.

猛龙球迷:你这话我就不懂了。你不能强迫别人待在任何城市啊。钱赚到一定程度后,那就不值当了。像他这种级别的球星会足够富裕的,几代人都不愁。到了一定地步后,钱是买不到幸福感的。

[–]Knicks Fmbounce 172 指標 11小時前

Of course you can’t force anyone to stay but it does not seem like Giannis is concerned about market size but moreso winning a championship.

There should be better incentives in place to get stars to stay. One reason Giannis would leave is because of the roster the Bucks can afford around him with a maxed out Middleton.

尼克斯球迷:确实不能强留谁,不过字母哥貌似在乎的不是市场大小,而是能不能拿冠军。

要想留住球星,得有更好的激励手段。字母哥是否会走的决定因素在于,雄鹿在顶薪续约米德尔顿之后还能围绕字母哥打造一个怎样的阵容。

[–]Raptors DrunkenMasterII 38 指標 9小時前

Signing Middleton for the max was a mistake.

猛龙球迷:顶薪续约米德尔顿就是个错误。

[–]Bucks swapmeetpete 98 指標 8小時前

It wasn’t. I know this gets said a lot, but the Bucks has no choice. They couldn’t afford to sign anyone else near his talent level if they didn’t re-sign him, and he and Giannis are friends. For the same reason the Bucks signed Thanasis, even if it helps 1% in making Giannis stay, it’s worth it.

雄鹿球迷:并不是。我知道这个说了很多次,可是雄鹿没得选啊。要是不续约米德尔顿,那我们也签不了任何和他实力接近的人啊。而且他和字母哥还是朋友,也是因为这一点,雄鹿才会签下他大哥萨纳西斯-阿德托昆博,哪怕这笔交易在留住字母哥的过程中只能发挥1%的作用,那也是值得的。

[–]Poopcie 487 指標 12小時前

If he signs this Kris Middleton will be the best player he's ever going to play with.

要是字母哥续约了,那他所合作过的最强队友就只有是米德尔顿了。

[–]anakin-dickstroker 13 指標 7小時前

He will waste his time if he stay there for another 5 years.

字母哥要是在密尔沃基多待五年,那就是浪费时间。

[–][MIL] Khris Middleton thefred_mcgriff 89 指標 12小時前

He hasn’t even signed it and it’s still true now so not much would change

雄鹿球迷:他不是还没签约嘛,而且到时候会有很多变数呢。

[–]Bucks DamienSalvation 10 指標 11小時前

Trades exist

雄鹿球迷:咱们也可以交易其他人啊。

[–]TFTisbetterthanLoL 33 指標 9小時前

Who the hell is tryna trade for a max contract Middleton lmao

谁特么会想着去要一个顶薪合同里的米德尔顿,哈哈哈

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[–]Raptors Jiffyyy 72 指標 12小時前

If bucks dont make something happen this year I feel next year would be even harder if KD is healthy and other teams making moves. I can see him leaving if they dont make the finals.

猛龙球迷:如果雄鹿新赛季不能有大作为,那我觉得他们明年就会更难,毕竟阿杜会复出,其他球队也会有动作。如果雄鹿不能打进总决赛,那我觉得字母哥会走人。

[–]laptoptoss 12 指標 9小時前

Atlanta is gonna go hard after him

那亚特兰大会对字母哥穷追不舍的。

[–]TFTisbetterthanLoL 17 指標 9小時前

Imagine the Trey and Giannis pick and roll

想象一下字母哥和特雷-杨挡拆的画面。

[–]Raptors FlameOfWar 124 指標 12小時前

Giannis is entering the same contract situation that Anthony Davis was in. The supermax could only be offered the year before the player's a free agent, so AD let the Pels know he's not going to sign it to allow them to trade him that trade deadline.

If the Bucks don't look too promising in the regular season, would Giannis do the same? If they flop in the playoffs and he doesn't want to sign the extension, will he get traded?

猛龙球迷:字母哥马上面临的合同状况要和之前的戴维斯一样了。只有在球员成为自由球员之前,球队才会提供超级顶薪,所以戴维斯提前让鹈鹕知道他不会续约,从而让鹈鹕在截止日前交易他。要是下赛季常规赛雄鹿的表现并不乐观,那字母哥也会那么做吗?如果他们在季后赛熄火,字母哥又不想续约,那他会被交易吗?

[–]Pistons Knutt_Bustley 46 指標 12小時前

Why is everyone assuming he's leaving lol

Did he not just make the conference Finals at 24?

活塞球迷:为啥你们都觉得他会走,哈哈哈

才24岁的他不是刚打进东决吗?

[–]Bucks legendaryalchemist 12 指標 11小時前

Everyone that isn't a Bucks fan wants him to leave.

雄鹿球迷:只要不是雄鹿球迷都希望他走。

[–]Raptors realsomalipirate 12 指標 10小時前

I don't think it's anything against the Bucks but that player movement is very exciting for neutrals.

猛龙球迷:我觉得大家也不是针对雄鹿,只是说,球员的流动会让吃瓜群众很兴奋。

[–]Raptors SingaporeanSlaw 108 指標 12小時前

Lebron made the ECF at 22/23 years old, he left when he turned 25.

It’s the NBA, anything can happen lol

猛龙球迷:詹姆斯在二十二三的年纪进了东决,然后在25岁就走了啊。在NBA,任何事都可能发生,嘿嘿。

[–][DEN] Nikola Jokic BigHoneySniper 39 指標 11小時前

That is insane to think about...I turned 25 this past August...I should take my talents to South Beach.

掘金球迷:想起来就扯……我八月就25了……我应该把我的天赋带到南海岸。

[–]Raptors SingaporeanSlaw 17 指標 11小時前

You should start watching your receding hairline too /s

猛龙球迷:你得看看你正在后退的发际线……

[–]Lakers antony1197 7 指標 7小時前

To be fair the Cavs next best player in those days was fucking Andy Varejao. Giannis has a decent roster surrounding him. Very different situations.

湖人球迷:公平说啊,当时骑士第二强的球员才特么瓦莱乔啊。字母哥现在的辅助阵容还是够看的。他的情况和当年的詹姆斯很不一样。

[–]Rockets KingNephew 43 指標 12小時前*

He cares a ton about his family, I think he stays cause the Bucks are elite but more so because his family should be secure for generations to come.

Edit: Didn’t mean his family won’t be set, but there’s a big difference between $100 million and $300 million plus in career earnings.

火箭球迷:字母哥是非常在乎家庭的,我觉得他留下是因为雄鹿足够强劲,不过更多地还是因为他家今后几代人可以衣食无忧。

编辑:职业生涯赚1亿美金和3亿美金还是有很大区别的。

[–]Greece NickIzMe 75 指標 11小時前

His family will be secure for generations regardless, no family needs 300 million to be secure

不管他走还是留,他的家人都会有保障的,没有家庭是必须靠3亿美金才能衣食无忧的。

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